An Obedience App

A reader recently mentioned to me that he uses an app to manage discipline with his wife. The app helps remind her of her responsibilities, and it also tells what the punishment is for each infraction. He has had a positive experience with the app, and thinks it could help couples with their marriage system. I don’t doubt it would work for some couples, although I don’t know if I’d want to do use it myself. The app he uses is one called Obedience, but I imagine there are other similar ones you could research. Before I go over a few possible pluses and negatives of using such a computerized method to manage your wife, let be give a brief overview.

According to the G–gle Play description, this is “a kinky habit tracker for couples in a BDSM dynamic.” As many of you know, most in domestic discipline don’t feel obliged to define ourselves as BDSM, due to differences of practices and beliefs. However, in the broadest possible meaning of the term, which includes all kinds of authority and discipline in relationships, including marriage, most would view wife spanking as under that 4-letter umbrella. Also note that G–gle defines it as “kink,” which most of us do not. Kink suggests something with unique sexual goals, or a practice which is otherwise a fetish. This is not true of discipline in marriage, since marriage is meant for almost all people, and its authority structure is universal. Discipline in marriage is normal discipline as in any authority structure, and its goals are to correct and improve the wife. It is not a special sex game, even if it may contain sexualized elements. Marriage itself is nearly as old as humanity, its creation described in Genesis 2 of the Bible, and it comes with characteristics which are not based on our personal preferences.

With that out of the way, the description at G–gle further describes the product this way: “Obedience will help you and your partner(s) track daily and weekly habits, and puts the dominant in charge of rewards and punishments. Couples can connect their phones, which enables one to update their habit status and spend their rewarded coins, and the other to see these in real time updates and set up a reward and punishment system.”

We should note that this app includes rewards, and not just punishments, which are usually what one thinks of in terms of wife spanking, or the BDSM scene. The first image that comes to mind is a method of punishment. However, rewards motivate, and punishments deter. Both of these are put into an orderly system, which can be changed as needed. 

A few of the reviews mentioned bugs in the app, but several of those who complained also mentioned that the bugs had been fixed. The large majority of the reviews were mostly or completely positive. To quote a few of them, Sky writes, “Taking the tedious effort out of Topping, while holding the bottom accountable everyday.” Naturally this would be appealing to husband and wife if it really makes their roles easier to perform. Chad Carew describes his experience, saying, “Setting up and figuring out how rewards, habits, etc interact with punishments took a day of messing around with it. Created categories to clean up the interface. Really helps keep my sub on track and see goals and rewards to reach and also keep discipline consistent.” A day to figure out an app which will serve you for years is not too long to spend, as long as it functions well once you have it up. Consistency is a must in leading a discipline system, which the app apparently helps with. The user Kai also praises how simple it is to use Obedience, writing, “Setting tasks, rewards, and punishments is very easy.” Cailey Roo, on the receiving end of such motivation, writes, “This app is an awesome habit tracker, even for relationships that are light on d/s. I’ve tried absolutely everything to keep me on track, but nothing worked until my doctor suggested using a reward system, and well, chocolate’s apparently the world’s best motivator. I really like how I can use my ‘good’ points for something tangible, but also save them up if I don’t feel like cashing in immediately!”

The overall rating of Obedience at that store is 4.7 stars. That’s very good.

How could an app or similar computerized method improve the discipline system? The first thing that stands out to me is the ability to have reminders. The app will know your responsibilities and remind you to do them. It is true there are other reminder methods for wives who think they may forget a responsibility, but this comes as part of the discipline system, so it is convenient in that aspect. The app can also make sure that the rules are clear, and the punishments are clear. If a husband is not very good with communication, he may leave his wife uncertain about these things, and she may not know that she needs to do, or what is worthy of punishment. This can be confusing for her, and at worst can make discipline lose its positive effects. With the app, these things are clear-cut responsibilities and consequences, whether reward or punishment. It may also remind some husbands that rewards can be a useful motivator. They certainly should not be the only thing that motivates a wife, but there is nothing wrong with receiving rewards for good work, and once one is receiving them, one tends to shoot for more. That can improve behavior. All of this can help a wife in being responsible and obedient, as the name of the app suggests. It can help husbands lead their wives, through the clear communication and rules it offers, and the reminders that it gives her. 

Apart from its uses in marriage, it is clear that an app may be helpful for women who desire more discipline in their life, but do not have a husband to provide it. There are many women in this situation. Unmarried women are wise to be wary of turning to the average man to provide such leadership and discipline, since there are dangers involved in a single woman doing this, and the intimacy of discipline makes it inappropriate for men besides her husband. She may have bad habits she wants to lose, problems with disrespect, or problems with procrastination. While not as meaningful as being led by a husband, an app may help her fulfill her goals if marriage for the time being is impossible. It can keep her following the rules, and receiving rewards or punishments for her behavior. She still needs to have the self-discipline to go through with any punishments, but the app could be a tool of motivation. 

What could be the drawbacks to using such a computerized system? One that comes to mind is that a computer may not take circumstances into account. Any wife is doing an enormous number of tasks, especially once children have come along. It is normal to put off minor tasks when you are overloaded, and there’s nothing wrong with it, as long as it is not done endlessly. An app may not take this into account. Matters of fulfilling responsibilities, at least some of the time, come down to a husband’s judgment. Was it legitimate to put something off? Was a task minor enough that it really does not warrant punishment when it is missed one time? I do not know that an app could process information that way, or make such judgments. Even the kind of punishment he gives is at times a decision the husband makes about a unique situation. He may decide to give a harsher or milder one based on varying factors. He may come up with a unique manner of punishment if he sees it is appropriate. A programmed app does not make these decisions. That’s not to say it would not be helpful to a couple, but simply to point out that it would need to be seen as a helper, and not the ultimate decider of punishment. The husband still has to be in control of the process, and let such a reminder system simply be a tool. 

Myself, I do not see a need for this kind of help in managing my wife. That’s because I find my system works. The communication I use, and the discipline I give bring good results. My wife is responsible and obedient, and takes her duties seriously. However, I do not dismiss apps as not helpful. I can see how a marriage would benefit from the app’s systematic way of doing things, and its reminders. So long as a husband knows he needs to stay flexible when necessary, and he needs to make the judgments, I don’t see much harm coming from it, and I do see some convenience. I believe the overall excellent reviews testify to that. 


Comments

13 responses to “An Obedience App”

  1. Decent review of the product. But there are so many more ways to use it. My husband has a brain injury that causes him to struggle at times with his memory. It is a great tool for him to stay on top of things and hold me accountable but also to hold himself accountable. It also has private messaging so it is great for sending messages to each other without a risk of accidently messaging someone else.

    My husband does not believe in set rewards or set punishments. We have the app set up so it does not attach any set punishment to any specific infraction.

    It is not for everyone but there can be some really great uses for it.

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      aronhusband

      Hello Raine, Thank you for your further description of how the product can be used. I was hoping someone would come on who knew about it in more detail. That’s helpful that you can use the app, but avoid having rewards and punishments set in stone. Nearly everyone needs reminders anyway.

  2. Merichelle Avatar
    Merichelle

    My husband is not convinced- he says that he needs to look at my attitude in general rather than specific things I do. He says that I have had days when I simply seem grumpy, or days where I do little things to make him feel good- so my punishment schedule is not determined by single actions

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      aronhusband

      That makes sense. Everyone has their different style of managing the home.

  3. My husband has used a task management app for years now to manage me and our children. He can assign and track my chores, set my diet and exercise schedule, my clothing, wake up and bedtimes, basically everything.

    Every evening we sit down and review my day and plan the next day. If correction or punishment is needed he explains his decision. The app is a great tool because everything is clear so that there are no misunderstandings or excuses.

    When my husband is at work or traveling he can update my assignments and I can check things off so that he knows the status of everything at all times. I appreciate that it takes work for my husband to stay on top of things but it keeps me in line 24/7.

    The obedience app sounds sort of rigid and kink oriented, but I can testify that an app definitely makes things easier for the head of household and the family, it works great for us. Modern technology for a traditional family!

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      Thank you for explaining what you use the app for. It sounds very comprehensive. It’s difficult to keep track of all those things yourself.

    2. Mind sharing the name of the app your husband uses? What you describe sounds extremely helpful to use with my own wife. I share the concerns about the Obedience app and do not care for exposing my wife to what looks to be a doorway to some pretty extreme degeneracy.

      1. The app my husband uses to manage me is called “Trello” it’s really easy to use and has worked great. Hope it works for you too!

        1. Most excellent, thank you.

  4. My husband and I use some sort of habit tracker in form of excel table. Each infraction I repeat the most is stated there and the more frequently I repeat it, the more severe punishment gets- for example I had huge problem saying that I don’t look good enough and my husband felt offended by my lack of self-esteem, so the first time I was spanked 10 times with hand, but next time it was 11 times with hand and 5 with hairbrush, then – 12 hand 6 wooden spoon, fourth time it was 13 hand and 7 big wooden paddle I hate the most… and the list goes on and on. We write date I commited infarction and if I am obedient for at least 30 days my next punishment is 5 levels lower. Also my husband have had trouble with being consistent with punishing me so If he forgets about my punishment I have 3 days to ask him to spank me – if I don’t my punishment doubles. Since I have adult ADHD this method has worked wonders for us!

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      aronhusband

      Thank you for explaining your system. I am glad it works for you. It would be very hard to be so organized without such a habit tracker.

  5. Kruggerand Avatar

    Aron, a very merry Christmas to you and your readers!

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      Thanks. Merry Christmas to you and to everyone else here. We just finished doing the nativity reading. God bless.

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